The Nether-World

May 10, 2007

Guilty Verdict In Al Jazeera Memo Trial

Filed under: Al Jazeera Memo — netherworld @ 12:39 am

The two men accused of violating the Official Secrets Act by leaking the al Jazeera memo have been found guilty. David Keogh, a government communications officer, and Leo O’Connor, a former political researcher will be sentenced on Thursday and face up to two years in jail. David Keogh’s conviction was predictable as he intended to expose the alleged plan of President Bush to bomb the offices of al Jazeera in Qatar. Leo O’Connor’s conviction is more of a surprise because all he did was pass the memo on to his boss. Because most of the trial was held in secret, very few details of it have emerged and the jury were warned by the judge, Mr Justice Aikens not to divulge any of the evidence they heard.

He said: “The information you heard in camera, including the contents of the letter and what was said by witnesses about the consequences of the disclosure of the letter, remain confidential – it remains secret.”

Peter Kilfoyle MP, who admitted passing on details of the alleged plan to bomb al Jazeera in Qatar, will escape prosecution. Prosecuting an MP on such a contentious issue would have attracted more unwelcome publicity. As it is, this story is likely to be buried by the imminent announcement of Tony Blair’s resignation. Hopefully the al Jazeera memo will one day be leaked once again, and once bloggers get hold of the contents, a cover up will be impossible. For more background about the case see here.

*UPDATE*

Both men have been given jail terms. David Keogh received a six month sentence and Leo O’Connor has been sentenced to three months in prison. Those are fairly lenient sentences, it could have been two years.

Tags: , ,

May 5, 2007

Blair Deluded As Ever

Filed under: Bliar, Nu Labour, UK Politics — netherworld @ 1:57 am

blair-sahaf.jpg

Okay, so I’m nowhere near as proficient with Photoshop as geniuses like Beau Bo D’Or, but after listening to Blair try to dress up Labour’s disastrous results in the latest elections as some kind of victory, I couldn’t resist this rather obvious gag. The spin coming from New Labour is hilarious. Of course, this sketch also comes to mind.

Tags: , ,

May 2, 2007

Blair: The Final Days

Filed under: Bliar, Nu Labour — netherworld @ 4:02 pm

520weeks.jpg

courtesy of Beau Bo D’Or

You can really feel the end of the Blair era approaching now. The newspapers are full of stories about Blair’s legacy and his likely successor, Gordon Brown, is getting plenty of media attention. Not so for those who dare to think that there should be a proper contest and who actually offer an alternative to the policy of the last ten years (or is it 28 years?). Previously loyal politicians are distancing themselves from Blair with some truly hilarious hypocrisy like this:

Blair was too focused on spin, says Mandelson

Buff Hoon also came out with a classic in reference to Iraq:

we didn’t plan for the right sort of aftermath

Sounds a bit like “the wrong kind of snow” doesn’t it? No doubt there will be plenty of political obituaries for Blair in the coming weeks and I may well write one myself. For the moment though, a little light relief seems in order as we get demob happy. From Eclectech (via Bloggerheads) comes this rather good animated piece with a soundtrack by Phil Alexander.

myway.jpg

Click on graphic to enter the site and play the video

Of course when the happy day of Blair’s departure actually arrives, a small celebration is called for at this location.

Tags: ,

April 30, 2007

July 7: The Truth Starts To Emerge

Filed under: 7/7, Terrorism — netherworld @ 8:57 pm

There has been a long gap in any reporting of the London bombings of July 7 2005. One of the reasons for this is the wait for the verdict in another trial which is related to the 7/7 atrocity. The plot was to blow up the Bluewater shopping centre in Kent and the Ministry of Sound nightclub in London (amongst other targets) with ammonium nitrate fertiliser. The plot was foiled in 2004 by the police who had the gang under surveillance.

Five British men with close links to the July 7 bombers were today jailed for life after being found guilty of a plot to set off a wave of fertiliser-based explosions around the country.

The judge, Sir Michael Astill, told the ringleader, Omar Khyam, he would serve a minimum of 20 years in jail. He warned all five they may spend the rest of their lives in prison.

“You have betrayed this country that has given you every opportunity,” he said. “All of you may never be released,” he said, while noting it was not “a foregone conclusion”.

Condemning “preachers of hate who contaminate impressionable young minds”, Sir Michael labelled 25-year-old Khyam, who boasted about links to al-Qaida, “ruthless, devious, artful and dangerous”.

After the verdicts it emerged that police had monitored Khyam repeatedly in the company of two of the July 7 bombers more than a year before the London suicide attacks, but that officers failed to act on the information.

Now that the trial is over some restrictions on reporting have been lifted. What emerges is a recognition that two of the July 7 bombers, Mohammad Sidique Khan (the ringleader) and Shehzad Tanweer were linked to the people behind the Fertiliser Bomb Plot. What is also coming out is that the July 7 bombers (like the fertiliser bomb plotters) had been followed, filmed and bugged by the security services in what is known as Operation Crevice , something that many of us have been saying for some time. The surveillance uncovered links between the gang and Islamist militants abroad, including al-Qaida.

MI5 secretly monitored two of the London 7 July bombers four times before the 2005 attacks, it emerged during the fertiliser bomb plot trial.

Details of how much the security services knew about suicide bombers Mohammad Sidique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer emerged at the trial.

The trial linked the bombers to an international network which was watched a year before the 2005 suicide attacks.

This of course makes a complete mockery of the the statement made by the Home Secretary at the time, Charles Clarke, a day after the London bombings:

“This was a vicious and cynical attack out of the blue in a way that there was no knowledge of beforehand in any respect whatsoever.”

The spinning has now gone up a gear with both MI5 and the Government trying to clarify their positions. MI5 have published their explanation on their website while the government is going out of its way to tell us why we still can’t have a full public inquiry into the atrocity. Instead it is offering us the lame alternative of a parliamentary committee revisiting the case and trying to pass that off as somehow ‘independent’.

This just isn’t good enough. We need a public (or at least independent) inquiry into July 7 if we want to have the best chance of preventing a repeat of that atrocity. Once again I’m calling on everyone to sign this petition calling for such an inquiry. By everyone I mean not just ordinary people but politicians of all parties (the opposition parties are also calling for a public inquiry) and media organisations. If you have a blog, please link to this petition and ask visitors to sign it. Many thanks to those who have already signed. With enough pressure we may eventually be able to force the government to investigate this event properly. As Rachel says:

I do not blame people in the security services for their mistakes and failure to use intelligence. It is failing to admit mistakes and then trying to cover up mistakes which is unforgivable and inexcusable.

Now that the Fertiliser Plot trial is over, the government can no longer hide behind sub judice rules and the excuse that a public or independent inquiry would take up too many resources and prevent further counter-terrorism measures is frankly ludicrous.


Related bloggage

Blairwatch
Chicken Yoghurt
Rachel From North London
D-Notice
Obsolete

More as I find it. Previous postings on 7/7 can be found here.

Tags: , , , ,

April 29, 2007

Crocodile Tears From The First Lady

Filed under: Bush, Iraq — netherworld @ 12:46 pm

What an utterly stupid thing to say! The Raw Story (via Agitprop) has a report of an interview with Laura Bush conducted by NBC’s Ann Curry. The interview was about Malaria Awareness Day but Ann Curry asked about other things and that led to a question about Iraq:

MS. CURRY: I also asked Mrs. Bush about other challenges her husband is facing.

(To Mrs. Bush.) You know the American people are suffering watching —

MRS. BUSH: Oh, I know that very much. And believe me, no one suffers more than their president and I do when we watch this, and certainly the commander in chief, who has asked our military to go into harm’s way.

Yup, that’s right, the suffering of the Iraqis in their ruined country or of the families of dead and maimed coalition soldiers pales into insignificance when compared with the suffering of Dubya and his Stepford wife who agonize over every casualty. Can you picture them in the residential part of the White House or on their Crawford ranch in front of the TV sobbing at the news of death of yet another American soldier the way his parents would? No, somehow I can’t either.

Tags: , ,

Riverbend Is Leaving Iraq

Filed under: Blogging, Iraq — netherworld @ 9:31 am

I suppose this was predictable as Iraq becomes more and more dangerous. Riverbend the Iraqi author of the excellent Baghdad Burning blog is leaving Iraq along with her family (via Blairwatch).

On a personal note, we’ve finally decided to leave. I guess I’ve known we would be leaving for a while now. We discussed it as a family dozens of times. At first, someone would suggest it tentatively because, it was just a preposterous idea- leaving ones home and extended family- leaving ones country- and to what? To where?

Since last summer, we had been discussing it more and more. It was only a matter of time before what began as a suggestion- a last case scenario- soon took on solidity and developed into a plan. For the last couple of months, it has only been a matter of logistics. Plane or car? Jordan or Syria? Will we all leave together as a family? Or will it be only my brother and I at first?

After Jordan or Syria- where then? Obviously, either of those countries is going to be a transit to something else. They are both overflowing with Iraqi refugees, and every single Iraqi living in either country is complaining of the fact that work is difficult to come by, and getting a residency is even more difficult. There is also the little problem of being turned back at the border. Thousands of Iraqis aren’t being let into Syria or Jordan- and there are no definite criteria for entry, the decision is based on the whim of the border patrol guard checking your passport.

An airplane isn’t necessarily safer, as the trip to Baghdad International Airport is in itself risky and travelers are just as likely to be refused permission to enter the country (Syria and Jordan) if they arrive by airplane. And if you’re wondering why Syria or Jordan, because they are the only two countries that will let Iraqis in without a visa. Following up visa issues with the few functioning embassies or consulates in Baghdad is next to impossible.

So we’ve been busy. Busy trying to decide what part of our lives to leave behind. Which memories are dispensable? We, like many Iraqis, are not the classic refugees- the ones with only the clothes on their backs and no choice. We are choosing to leave because the other option is simply a continuation of what has been one long nightmare- stay and wait and try to survive.

On the one hand, I know that leaving the country and starting a new life somewhere else- as yet unknown- is such a huge thing that it should dwarf every trivial concern. The funny thing is that it’s the trivial that seems to occupy our lives. We discuss whether to take photo albums or leave them behind. Can I bring along a stuffed animal I’ve had since the age of four? Is there room for E.’s guitar? What clothes do we take? Summer clothes? The winter clothes too? What about my books? What about the CDs, the baby pictures?

The problem is that we don’t even know if we’ll ever see this stuff again. We don’t know if whatever we leave, including the house, will be available when and if we come back. There are moments when the injustice of having to leave your country, simply because an imbecile got it into his head to invade it, is overwhelming. It is unfair that in order to survive and live normally, we have to leave our home and what remains of family and friends… And to what?

Read the whole post

I can’t begin to imagine the horrors that Riverbend and all Iraqis have had to put up with since the illegal invasion and subsequent catastrophe. I hope that wherever she ends up, she and her family will be safe and either be able to return one day or find a better life somewhere else. I’ve been reading her blog regularly over the last few years and it always provided a unique, personal insight into the tragedy that Iraq has become. I’ll miss her posts from Iraq but getting the hell out of there seems like the most sensible thing to do. Wherever she ends up I hope she keeps writing as she has a real gift for it. Good luck Riverbend.

*UPDATE*

Ten Percent has an interesting post on how hard it is for Iraqi refugees to enter the United States (Britain isn’t taking many in either).

 

Tags: ,

April 28, 2007

Blair’s Delayed Departure Explained

Filed under: Bliar, Nu Labour, UK Politics — netherworld @ 2:41 pm

It all makes sense now

blair_brown_leadership.jpg

With thanks to Beau Bo D’Or

Tags: , ,

Blair’s Legacy

Filed under: Bliar, Nu Labour, UK Politics — netherworld @ 1:57 pm

The closer we get to the moment when Blair finally throws in the towel, the more we hear about his legacy. Many people will obviously think his legacy will be Iraq, the cash for peerages scandal, the loss of so many civil liberties, the out-of-control surveillance society, the pensions scandal, his subservience to George Bush, the widening gap between rich and poor, the freezing of social mobility and the creeping privatisation of our public services.

Blair, of course, has other ideas, and in an effort to divert attention from his numerous failures which will be highlighted during next week’s elections, he has compiled his own 22 page dossier (yup, another dodgy dossier) of what he wants his legacy to be and distributed it among all Labour MPs. Needless to say it’s mostly garbage. It still links Saddam Hussein to 9/11.

“9/11 fundamentally changed the world,” he said. “We are still dealing with its impact, most obviously, in both Afghanistan and Iraq.”

Well, we can’t argue that 9/11 didn’t change the world but when it was used as a shoddy pretext for the illegal invasion of Iraq coupled with a load of nonsense about WMD pushed by Bush and Blair, his statement is as ridiculous as those still made by Dick Cheney. It gets worse:

“Our influence and access across the globe has increased with Britain helping to set the agenda rather than follow it,”

Yeah, right! Another depressing part for me was a bit about what his successors will inherit.

 

In an early contribution to the political obituaries that will mark his resignation, the prime minister said New Labour had created “the governing idea of British politics“, which all opposition parties had had to adopt in its wake.

Oh please God, no… How arrogant! Blair’s legacy will be what people remember, not what he tells them it is. Blair isn’t the first to do this obviously. Kings, emperors, and dictators have been doing this since the beginning of civilisation. Usually in these cases, however, the legacy is presented after the real, not the political death of the ruler in the form of an obituary or a commemorative monument. I wonder if Blair will be merely content to hand out a list for his loyal acolytes to recite on cue and, of course, the medal he hasn’t been able to collect from Bush, or whether he’s wishing for something more substantial like, say, the Res Gestae Divi Augusti that the emperor Augustus had emblazoned on various monuments around the Roman empire. At least Augustus achieved the things he boasted about.

Tags: , ,

April 21, 2007

What John McCain Would Do If He Became President

Filed under: Iran, US Politics — netherworld @ 4:56 am

Just when you thought the Republicans couldn’t get any more stupid…

And John McCain’s response when criticised for his wit? “Please, I was talking to some of my old veterans’ friends,” he said. “My response is, lighten up and get a life.” Maybe that should be “lighten up and take a life”. John McCain is getting quite a reputation for being an idiot these days.

Tags: , , ,

April 16, 2007

Fun and Games Baiting Nazis

Filed under: Blogging, Fruitbats, Nazis — netherworld @ 4:23 am

*UPDATED* *UPDATED* (See below)

If I was to say that Nazis don’t have much of a sense of humour, I doubt that many people would disagree. Recently I found myself in a position to test this idea and the Nazi I confronted is as humourless as she is gormless.

About a month ago I published an article on Blairwatch entitled America And Britain Asked Poland To Host Secret CIA Gulag. The content of the article is pretty much described by its title. A day later the article found its way onto the Global Research web site with full linkage back to its origin and nothing changed. Fine, no problem. So, a few days ago, while looking at who’s been linking to Blairwatch, I was shocked to find a link with this title: White Trashmericans and Jews Wanted Poland to Host Modern “Gulags”. It was the entire article published with the title changed to reflect this nutcase’s views and changing the context of what I wrote. I was even more angry when I saw that under the title, in smaller text was the original title with a little addition before my name appeared.

nazi-post-01.jpg

This worried me because in a Google search, for example this hate-filled crap could end up like looking as if it was my opinion.

The name of the blog that published this is (ready for this?) Adolf Hitler Research Society. I mean WTF? I’m trying very hard not to link to it obviously – I don’t want to provoke any more responses from this fruitbat. This blog has nothing at all to do with proper research and is just a vehicle for its owner, a Verohnika Clark, to spew out some of the most hate-filled anti-Semitic bile I’ve ever seen, and to deny the Holocaust and adulate Adolf fucking Hitler. Here is a quick example of the sort of crap you’ll find on this blog from a post entitled “A Case Study: Africans and Naziism“:

Jews are subhuman shit-trash.

There. I said it because no one else has the gonads. Would I ever call for a genocide against Jews? Well, if I was President of Los Estados Unidos, then, “Yes, I would.” I would bomb the living sh*t out of Tel Aviv and cut off all funding to all Jews. I would string up their circus leaders—Chertoffsky would dangle from a rope. So would Bush, Levy, Feinstein, Feingold, Boxer, Schumer, Lieberman, Clinton, and all the other Jewish and crypto-Jewish rat-bags in the Jewmerican government.

That’s a pretty common example of the guff she writes. Naturally I left a comment outlining my disgust at her twisting of one of my posts. I was as polite as I was able to be:

I’d like to make it clear that despite you using one of my articles to support your Nazi and anti-Semitic views, these are views that I do not share and I’m appalled that you used something I wrote and twisted the context in this obscene way.

My article is about Polish and British collaboration with the CIA in its rendition and black site program, and in it I make no mention at all of Jews or “White Trashmericans”, neither of which have anything to do with the topic I was writing about.

I am a fierce critic of Israeli and American policy but that doesn’t make me anti-Semitic. In fact I’m part Jewish so that alone is enough expose your conspiracy theory as the rubbish it is. One of the reasons I criticise Israel and the American neo-cons is because I find their policies and actions to be similar to those of the Nazis (whose ideology disgusts me) and I hate all forms of racism whoever is behind it.

She did change the post putting in the correct title. I thought that was going to be the end of it but she then posted a piece called “Open Rebuttal to David Simonetti” Which started off with the hilarious:

I find your bigotry to be extremely affronting to my docile and sensible nature. I am not an anti-Semite.

Right, I see. After proclaiming her love for Persians and Palestinians etc., there then followed an anti-Semitic rant. The post ended with the frankly bemusing:

I’m ready for your response. Oh, I might like to add that you appear to have a vagina between your legs from the pussified manner in which you write. That’s typical of white men in America these days. They have to be feminine for their ‘masters.’ That’s fine. So do I. So, let’s argue like the two civilized women we are, shall we?

How could I refuse to respond to that?

Verohnika,

Thank you for changing the post, it is slightly better in its current format. I started writing this response before you changed your post. Incidentally, I have a screen grab of your original post and my comment on it.

I’m not going to get into an argument with you over your confused rantings [unfortunately that’s what happened]. As I’ve already said, I have criticised what I see as Israeli crimes. Unlike you though, my criticisms are restricted to the government of Israel and the IDF rather than a whole people which you (in your docile and sensible nature) describe elsewhere on your blog as “vermin”. You are entitled to your views (as repellant as I find them). The issue I’m raising with you is different. By taking an article that I have written which is about a completely separate topic and entitling it “White Trashmericans and Jews Wanted Poland to Host Modern “Gulags”” after publishing it in its entirety, you were altering the meaning of what I have written. Legally, that was a prima facia case of defamation. It affects me because people using search engines such as Google may well see the bit at the top of your post which has the following:

America And Britain Asked Poland To Host Secret CIA Gulag [Typical Jewish stunt. Jewmerica has, indeed, devolved into a nation of worthless Jew-ridden sh*t!J
by David Simonetti

That means that it would be easy for readers to assume that your references to “Jewmerica” and “worthless Jew-ridden sh*t!” (again your docile and sensible nature in evidence) are in fact my views which emphatically is not the case. All I was asking you to do (as politely as I could) was to clearly disassociate your views from mine and my views from yours in order to avoid confusion. That’s wasn’t too much to ask was it?

Oh, and you’re wrong on a couple of other things too. The last time there was a vagina between my legs it was someone else’s, not that I see what this has to do with this dispute. I am definitely masculine and I have no master (what is this obsession Nazis have with masters?) If you think my writing style is feminine, well, again, that’s your opinion. It’s the first I’ve heard of it. Also, I’m not American, in fact I’ve never even been to the USA.

Verohnika’s response was to suggest I read some of her so-called research, all of which comes from discredited historians, Nazis and Holocaust deniers She delights in telling people that she has a B.A. but won’t say what in or where she got it – I suggested it was in Holocaust denial which didn’t go down to well (It can’t be in history because a first year undergraduate knows more about source evaluation). Suffice to say her ‘research’ wasn’t an enlightening read. I don’t know what possessed me but I decided it might be worth refuting some of her ridiculous claims, particulary regarding the Holocaust (in retrospect that was a mistake, I probably should have just ignored the idiot). It really isn’t that hard to do. I blew away one falsehood after another with easy to find evidence that is far better sourced.

Thing is, each time I did this she’d write yet another post directed at me with even more bollocks (the funniest was one called “Mr Simonetti… Damn you“). But the content was always the same old crap. Every post I commented on was instantly buried under a plethora of others. She tried moving the goalposts by saying that evidence from survivors was inadmissible. So, I supplied her with testimony from some of the SS who were very informative in how they committed these crimes and tried to cover them up. She then refused to acknowledge that saying they were testifying after the facts (huh?), their memory was flawed and that there were plenty of SS people who didn’t confess and those who did were tortured (they weren’t). All the photographs and documents had to be forgeries. She wouldn’t accept anything from Wikipedia because it was “dominated by Jews”. On and on it went until it became utterly tedious and pointless.

I decided to change tactics and make the argument more amusing by taking the piss. Her blog doesn’t accept anonymous comments (for obvious reasons) so I invented a few characters to post on her blog (I realise this goes against current thinking on ‘netiquette’ but in this case I thought an exception was called for). I thought that she’d instantly see it was me (it’s not like her blog gets many visitors) but amazingly she didn’t nor did she delete the comments… at first. Here is an example from a typical example of her guff taken from an equally repellant source which I hesitate to link to (I will because it demonstrates her cherry-picking):

nazi-post-02.jpg

Typically, she responded to this with yet another post entitled “Appeal to Humor Won’t Work“. I then noticed that amongst all her garbage-filled posts was a simple one informing the world that she has changed her e-mail address and here was the new one.

nazi-post-03.jpg

Not the cleverest thing to do when what you write is such offensive, extremist trash, I thought. Anyway, I couldn’t resist a last little prank before leaving her to sink in her sewer. From her response I don’t think it went down too well.

nazi-post-04.jpg

Here are a couple of comments that didn’t make it onto that post (not in the best possible taste):

SS Obersturmbannführer Otto Von Lebensraum said:

Mein Gott! This is outrageous. Who could do such a terrible thing? This is even worse than the terrible things we did (not that we did them, of course). Oh, meine leibling, these untermenchen are running rings around you. If ever we needed proof of a vast Jewish conspiracy against us, then this is it. Gott in himmel, have they no shame? As soon as General Wenck arrives with the Twelfth Army and saves our Thousand Year Reich (it can’t be long now) then the Gestapo will investigate this heinous crime and there will be some more gassings…oops! This is an affront not just to you but also to the memory of our glorious Führer who will one day return to restore peace and tolerance in the world as he did before… Oh no, Nurse is coming with the medication again…

Rabbi Schickelgruber said:

Oh dear, it seems you have easily fallen for a prank. How could this happen? Surely someone with such a keen intellect as yours wouldn’t have been stupid enough to write a post with your e-mail address on it after spewing out such racist bile… Oh, you did? I see. I guess the master race isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Oh well, we live and learn. I must say though, whoever did this must have a wicked sense of humour and it seems to have got you a bit rattled.

She has now finally discovered comment moderation so she’ll only accept comments from fellow Nazis now. She’s also deleted every post with reference to me and with any of my comments on. Some of her guff has been reposted (without comments, of course). So I guess she finally twigged. Anyway I wouldn’t bother visiting, it really is a sewer over there. Unfortunately (in cases like these) the First Amendment guarantees her right to spew out this bile while in the rest of the world more laws are coming in to stop this sort of thing. This is why the nastiest and most hate-filled web sites are (more often than not) found in America. However, I too believe in freedom of speech so this presents a bit of a problem. I’ve flagged her blog as offensive and I’ve contacted blogger.com and asked them to put up a warning page in front of it, and if enough people do that then they might be compelled to act. It would definitely be an improvement. Incidentally, Verohnika mentioned in one of her comments that Google pulled her last blog (God knows what was on it if this incarnation is a toned-down version or, more likely, it’s the same old rubbish and Google haven’t realised it yet).

There is a serious reason why I mention all this. I do often criticise Israeli policy and doing so sometimes gets me into confrontations with idiots who call me a Nazi without any evidence to back up the accusation. I find that insulting, especially when, as you’ve seen, there are genuine Nazis out there. Being called one, as well as being wrong and offensive, weakens my arguments against people like mad Mel. I consider it an honour to be despised by people like Verohnika and her hatred of me does me no harm at all. Verohnika thinks she has removed all evidence of our little spat – she’s wrong on that point too. This post will serve as proof. Anyway, after all that I think I need a long bath.

*UPDATE* April 18

A Victory of Sorts

It looks like Blogger.com has responded to my complaint and maybe those of others. To those who have complained, thank you.

content-warning.jpg

The above warning screen now appears for anyone accessing the site for the first time. I just hope the warning screen stays there. This is a positive development and a good compromise; Verohnika’s freedom of speech has not been affected and she is still free to spew out her hatred for now, and unaware first-time visitors are now warned that they may find offensive content if they enter the site. If you do continue and enter the site, however, the warning doesn’t come back unless you clear your cookies. If you want to see this cesspit for yourself, I won’t link to it in case it bypasses the warning but paste this into your browser: http://hitlerresearch.blogspot.com/ (if you do decide to visit and you agree that it’s excessively offensive, please flag it as such using the button on the Blogger.com bar at the top of the page or contact Blogger.com). I imagine Verohnika (or SS Adjutant Handstein, as she now signs her posts) will be spitting nails now. Oh well, she’ll be spitting even more nails when she sees this.

*ANOTHER UPDATE* April 18

Could this be an another victory? I thought I’d have a look and see what Verohnika Clark (a.k.a. SS Adjutant Handstein) has been up to and imagine my surprise when I found this:

page-not-found.jpg

Well, it’s possible that it might just be one of those glitches that happens from time to time, but then it’s also possible that someone with some authority actually had a look at what she was writing and the blog got pulled. I can’t help feeling a degree of satisfaction even though I was content with the warning page (okay, I admit it, I’m punching the air). The last posts I saw in that cesspit of hers were about the recent tragic massacre in Virginia and they really were beyond the pale. Perhaps I should have taken screen grabs but then again her guff has had quite enough publicity. Those last posts I saw were frankly disgusting and I’m not going to go into what was in them. So hopefully Verohnika Clark and her cesspit of a blog have fallen off the internet. I’d like to think that she’s gone for good but somehow I’m not so sure she won’t return. I know she posts her crap on other Nazi sites like Stormfront and her utterly ludicrous Adolf Hitler Research Society (AHRS hole) exists elsewhere on the internet as a web site. However if her blog has gone, then I think that can be chalked up a small victory. Here is the last e-mail I sent to Blogger.com a few hours before the blog vanished:

Hi Blogger Team,

Thank you for your reply. I understand that Blogger does not remove allegedly defamatory, libellous, or slanderous material from Blogger.com or BlogSpot.com. Actually, this is something I’m inclined to agree with in general as I too strongly believe in freedom of expression. My main concern was that there should be some sort of warning for readers before entering the site. It appears that you have put up such a warning and I thank you for that. I believe this is a vast improvement as well as a good compromise; no one’s freedom of speech is affected and unaware readers are now warned that there may be content they might find offensive. This was really what I was hoping for.

I have had some dialogue with the author of the blog in question, using the comments feature but she will no-longer accept comments from me and continues to write content that I’m sure many people would find extremely offensive. In our discussions, this individual told me that Google has already pulled one of her web logs. This was something I discovered after I first contacted you and if it is true then I’m certainly not surprised judging by the extremist content on her current blog.

Anyway, thank you once again for replying and, more importantly, for putting up the warning page, as I say it is a vast improvement and I hope that it stays there.

Yours sincerely

Davide Simonetti

The lesson here is that yes, freedom of speech is vitally important but when someone is loudly calling out for the extermination of an entire race then maybe the platform should be removed. I hope that this is what eventually happened. We shall see. If this is the case then I’ll delete the spoof blog I made to highlight what this idiot was doing.

*YET ANOTHER UPDATE* April 19

Well, I think it’s more or less confirmed that Verohnika Clark (a.k.a SS Adjutant Handstein) has had her blog pulled by Google. I found this furious and barely comprehensible rant at the front page of one of her other websites http://www.adolfhitlerresearchsociety.org/ (which now also seems to have gone down for the moment, hmm):

Halten! AHRS Requests Authorization

This site now requires authorization from Verohnika Clark. I apologize for this inconvenience, but, there have been repeated attacks against my server and my personal blogs by Jewish supremacists and free speech violators. The username and password have both been changed. If you do not e-mail me for the new set, then you will not be allowed to view this web site. E-mail: webmaster at adolfhitlerresearchsociety dot org or AdjutantHandstein@hotmail.com. Another one of my ‘offensive’ web blogs was flagged and deleted by Google and their Jewish minions. Actually, I think it was just sabotaged to the point where I couldn’t post to it or view it any longer. Strange, because I couldn’t view it or post to it from either of my computers, but other people could still view it. I suspect they sabotaged my login or something. Kewt! So, I have started another new blog and the two official AHRS web sites will be password protected from here on out. Happy Birthday Adolf Hitler! We Love You! 4/20/1889 Do not use VerohnikaSS@hotmail.com any longer. It was also sabotaged by Jewry. They signed me up for ADL and Simon Weaselbag online. Please use AdjutantHandstein@hotmail.com. Oh, and they did something to my webmaster account, so, I can only receive mail. I can?t send it from that account. UPDATE! I received two e-mails today [4.18.2007] at my old e-mail address, from anonymous e-mailer, informing me that I had “been warned” that my blog would be ‘sabotaged’. Apparently, this Jewish clown was able to get Google to sabotage my own login procedure. I am going to be out of town starting tonight [4/18/07]. So, I will not be updating my blog or the two sites for a few days. I had to give Adi an early “Happy Birthday.” Make a German chocolate cake for him and light a candle in commemoration of his life and light in a time of nearly unparalleled Jewish darkness.

So, my first reaction to this has to be: Ahahahahahaha!!! Just how fucking stupid can she be? she gets burned by publishing her new e-mail address (after her old one was suspiciously “terminated”) and so what does she do? She publishes another new one so the same thing can, in all probability, happen again. This little rant also tells us that she hasn’t got a clue what is happening to her other that the vast Jewish conspiracy is out to get her (interestingly, though, it seems that I’m not the only one with an axe to grind). She’s gone off to sulk for a few days so we can be thankful for a brief period of rest before she comes back with a new blog to carry on her mission of disgusting the planet. Unsurprisingly, she’s learned nothing from her recent experiences (hey, I did say that she’s gormless). I don’t have the time or inclination to keep a constant vigil on her activities. I will keep my eyes open though because neither her nor her knuckle-dragging Nazi friends can be trusted, but as long as they are as thick as they seem to be, I don’t think there’s a great cause for concern.

It’s interesting that all this happened just before her hero’s birthday. It’s not something that occurred to me, but then why should it? That piece of shit is, thankfully, long dead.

*FINAL UPDATE* (hopefully) April 20

I think and hope all this can be laid to rest now. The AHRSholes web site is back on line and Verohnika Clark is back to blogging her usual crap. The difference now is that the only way to access her new blog is to register with the main Nazi mothership (AHRSholes) for a username and password. This is much better because people can’t accidentally stumble upon this dishonest, extremist rubbish any more, you have to be a Nazi (or just determined) to get to it. So, I think it was worth all the hassle even though it now seems I’m on the Nazi shit-list… Oh well, I think I’ll get over it.

ahrs-screen-grab2.jpg

Leaving aside the hilarity of the people who brought us the Gestapo complaining about their free speech and privacy being violated, this just isn’t the case. As you can see, they are doing exactly what they did before (they’ve just been forced to crawl back under their rock to do it) so their free speech isn’t really affected. And as for privacy, well if you plaster your “private” e-mail address all over the internet then it’s hardly private is it? This seems to have finally sunk in, so even Verohnika will have to acknowledge that she’s been taught a lesson.

Addendum

I’ve just been reading a very interesting post by Unity over at Ministry of Truth (via D-Notice). It’s about new legislation being brought in by the EU to make denying the Holocaust or the Rwandan genocide a crime but not the Armenian genocide (for entirely political reasons). Like Unity, D-Notice and DK, I’m completely opposed to this. Clumsy and ill-thought out legislation like this makes having a different opinion a thought-crime and is counter-productive as, like Unity says, it drives these ideas underground instead of defeating them with better ideas. In his post, Unity uses similar arguments to the ones I made about a year ago when I defended the right of the pseudo ‘historian’ David Irving to make a complete prat of himself without getting locked up for it. I mention this because it does have a bearing on the above story – In Europe Verohnika would certainly fall foul of this law.

My spat with Verohnika Clark started when she twisted the meaning of a post I wrote and developed into an argument about her erroneous ideas and extremist language (such as calling for a genocide on Jews). When I refuted her arguments and mocked them, she felt it necessary to delete not just my comments but several posts with my comments on them. Eventually I did call on Google to put up a warning screen on her blog because it was misleadingly called Adolf Hitler Research Society which means that genuine researchers and students might have gone there thinking that the site contained real scholarship only to find page after page of hate-filled anti-Semitic rants, adulation of a mass murderer and Nazi propaganda.

It’s stuff like this which is driving a demand for more legislation to control the Internet, so if self-regulation could be demonstrated to work, I had hoped that it would hold off such legislation. A warning screen wouldn’t have affected Verohnika’s freedom of speech but would have alerted visitors to the nature of the content. As it was, Google decided take away her megaphone, as it did before (despite what Verohnika says, I haven’t a clue what happened to her other sites which also seem to have disappeared). At no point did I call for her to be prosecuted for what she had written – she couldn’t be prosecuted anyway because in the USA the First Amendment guarantees her right to say what she likes. I’m fairly certain that after a short break Verohnika will be back spreading her lies and hate (she’s said as much). But what this shows is that in some cases at least, it is possible to deal with Internet hatred without extra unnecessary legislation. Bringing in laws like the ones proposed (however well-meaning, and I’m not that sure that they are) lowers us to the level of the book-burners we want to defeat.

Tags: , ,

« Newer PostsOlder Posts »

Blog at WordPress.com.